Thursday, January 8, 2026

373 - January Fools

 We are fools this episode. Happy New Year! Maysoun went to Chicago! Kate went to Berkeley! We plan out our beginning-of-the-year expeditions.

The music in this episode is by SAMMI

Starting strong!


Remembering Yoko Ono's "Cut Piece" by Julia Bryan-Wilson

Your Guide to the Bay Area’s Biggest Art Month by Sarah Hotchkiss


Thursday, December 18, 2025

372 - Disorient (with Helia Pouyanfar)

 This week we talk to artist, Helia Pouyanfar. We go off about rice, the refugee body, fog descending upon the earth, and of course, cats. 

The music in this episode is by The Good Life


Rice is from everywhere!


Helia Pouyanfar

History of Persian Cats

Thursday, December 11, 2025

371 - ATA! (with Tessa Siddle and Ariel Zaccheo)

 This week we talk with Tessa Siddle and Ariel Zaccheo about beloved San Francisco gallery and micro-cinema, Artist Television Access. Donate to them! We love ATA!!!

The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero



Donate to ATA! 

Thursday, December 4, 2025

370 - Bemis Tech Breath

 This week we have listener feedback from an artist who works in tech. We also hear from a listener who applied to Bemis, the residency in Omaha. Plus Kate went to a breathwork session and is flummoxed by it.

The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero

Don't forget to breathe!


Wednesday, November 26, 2025

369 - Labor at the Wattis

 This week we went to see 8 Hours of Work at the Wattis. We had to infiltrate, take an elevator, and take in about 900 hours of video. We both get emotional in different ways. We also appreciate Julia Bryan-Wilson and Italo Calvino.

The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero


SOLIDARITY FOREVER!


Wednesday, November 19, 2025

368 - Free School

 This week we talk about several alternatives to traditional (expensive) art schools. We ask the big questions and speculate about the big answers. Maysoun has a cold but she is going to be ok. Thank you to the listener who wrote in about the co-op!

The music in this episode is by AL GHARIB

A pleasure to have in class.


Wednesday, October 29, 2025

367 - Morning Pages

 This week we talk about ICE (oink, oink, PIGS!) We also hear back from the listener with the upside-down painting. We premiere a new email address! 

The music in this episode is by aivi & surasshu




The Arab Film Festival

Freewrite

KAWS: FAMILY

Altman Siegel



Tuesday, October 21, 2025

366 - Margaret Tedesco

 We love you and miss you so much, Margaret Tedesco. This episode was originally posted February 10th, 2016.

The music in this episode is by XUXA SANTAMARIA


dance, dance, dance

[2nd floor projects]
(the Glen that Margaret talks about is Glen Helfand)
Kevin Killian
Eileen Myles
Dennis Cooper
Gina Lollobrigida
Gregory's Girl - Dancing Scene

Tuesday, October 14, 2025

365 - Inverted Integrity

 This week Maysoun and Kate take on the big questions! When should artists compromise their integrity? How can we communicate well in difficult situations? What the hell is going on? All this and more on Congratulations Pine Tree.

The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero

Inversion!

 


Who Has a Say in the Flood of Public Art Coming to San Francisco?

Wednesday, October 1, 2025

364 - Glitched Plants (with Kija Lucas)

 This week we have a glorious conversation with artist and educator, Kija Lucas. We talk about misplaced plant species, photo glitches, getting down to business, mental health, and the dramas of installing wallpaper. 

The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero

Take care of your brain!

Kija Lucas

To Bright Disturbances

Black Cube Gallery

Wednesday, September 24, 2025

363 - Stepped Fret (with Isaac Vazquez Avila)

This week Kate has a rolicking conversation with artist, Isaac Vazquez Avila. We talk about not-roosters, pyramids, Salt Lake City, painting, and eating digital spiders. It's a hell of a chat!


The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero


Watch out!


Isaac Vazquez Avila

Part 2 Gallery

Wednesday, September 10, 2025

Wednesday, August 27, 2025

361 - Friendly Radio (with Amanda Guest)

 This week we talk to Amanda Guest, founder of BFF.fm. We learn about all kinds of radios stuff. Other topics covered include toxic sound tech guys, witch hysteria, women in STEM, and so much! We get the best from Guest. 

The music in this episode is by AL GHARIB

Watch out for Captain Onishima!

BFF.fm

SF Community Music Center

Tuesday, August 19, 2025

360 - Sacks (with Katherine Ross Ward)

 This week Katherine Ross Ward joins Kate since Maysoun is on shore leave. Topics covered include babies, the DMV, quilts, gallery food, and censorship! Come take a ride with two Katherines. Plus a baby!


The music in this episode is by ConsciousMind


Katherines.



Routed West at BAMPFA


Wednesday, August 6, 2025

359 - No World but Brunch (with Kelly Pendergrast)

This week we talk to writer and arts-related-person, Kelly Pendergrast! We talk about breakfast, disasters, and the heart of the United States. We still have a fucked up mic but Kate makes the best of it. 

The music in this episode is by DJ FLEXAHOLIC

TUATARA!

Kelly Pendergrast

Wednesday, July 23, 2025

Lost Tape: Underwater Olympics

 Carrie Hott and Kate found another tape if you can believe that! What secrets does it hold?!

Good luck to Carrie on her voyage to Indiana! We love you!!!

What can't they do?


Wednesday, July 16, 2025

357 - Underdark

 This week Kate went to a show at Slash. We try to figure out what to make when you don't want to make anything. We talk about aliens, but are not impressed by them. We figure out France. Maysoun talks about the bike ride for MECA (the Middle East Children’s Alliance) and you should join in on 

The music in this episode is by DJ Daria

When you're ready- go!


Slash

Middle East Children’s Alliance


https://www.naughtygirlfitness.com/


https://www.daynamacy.com/


https://handsomepod.com/


https://howtoadhd.com/


Wednesday, July 2, 2025

356 - Coffee Time

This week Kate has gone to an immersive theater experience in the Tenderloin. Maysoun goes to see art in the Tenderloin. Everyone goes to the Tenderloin. Plus coffee.

The music in this episode is by Deerhoof


Hot cup o' joe!


Compton’s Cafeteria Riot (the play)

Tenderloin Museum

Screaming Queens

'It's erasure': One of San Francisco's most celebrated sites is at a crossroads

Oakland Liberation Center


Wednesday, June 25, 2025

355 - Corporate Partnership

 This week we talk about corporate partnerships, peep shows, and brain fog. Maysoun refuses to accept Kate's mnemonic devices. Maysoun also demands a clap track.

The music in this episode is from Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape

PRAISE THE CORPORATE OVERLORDS!

Creativity Explored x Pottery Barn


Wednesday, June 18, 2025

354 - Besties vs. Besties (with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross)

 This week we face off with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross. We play the newlyweds game, talk about what we're reading, and relitigate the dramas of the L-word. Also hotdog costumes.

The music in this episode is by AL GHARIB

It was the battle of the century!