228 - Index Cards

This week we have some listener feedback! Thank the goddesses! We also talk about moms4housing, the art fairs, and how everyone should have a fake press pass.

Almost all the music in this episode is by CAPE

Support Moms4Housing

Moms 4 Housing: Meet the Oakland Mothers Facing Eviction After Two Months Occupying Vacant House
#Moms4Housing: Meet the Mother & Daughter Armed Police Just Evicted from a Vacant House in Oakland
Zettelkasten
ACRE residency in Wisconsin
UpFront on KPFA
Tiny Splendor

Millions of index cards!

227 - Tanuki and Friends

Happy 2020! We're back on our regular schedule! This week we talk about the show up at the Wattis, BDSM masks at the Berkley Museum, the SECA show at SFMOMA, cat eyes, cartoon ducks, and East Bay representative Barbara Lee.

Almost all the music in this episode is by Sun Hop Fat

CCA Wattis Institute for Contemporary Arts
BAMPFA
In Praise of the Strangest Painting I’ve Ever Seen by Sarah Hotchkiss
2019 SECA Art Award
Jimi Hendrix - National Anthem
How to Read the Hierophant Card
Barbara Lee’s Long War on the War on Terror

This is a tanuki

Winter Break!

Hello, gentle listener! We are going on winter break. See you in 2020 for more rambles, bathroom reviews, hottt goss, and painting with cats!

Our holiday wish is for you to donate to RAICES (Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services) and the Coalition on Homelessness if you have some money to spare. 

Have a lovely end of December and email us your comments, questions and concerns while you're avoiding your loved ones! CongratulationsPineTree@gmail.com

RIP Thomas Kinkade

226 - Can't Talk About It

Maysoun tells us about what she saw on her trip to New York! She went to the newly remodeled MOMA, a Nathalie Djurberg show, and she walked by a long line for an infinity room. We also can't talk about a bunch of things and Kate tells a story from her semester teaching at SJSU.

All the music in this episode is by Introflirt

There are too many things we can't talk about!

225 - What's a curator? (with Elizabeth Thomas)

This week we go off with independent curator, Elizabeth Thomas. She helps us figure out what a curator is, how not to organize emails, Saddam Hussein's plates, and the state of Wisconsin. We also get into a short round of Like or Don't Like!

The music in this episode is by The Gonks

The Pew Charitable Trusts

Mural Arts Philadelphia 
RADIO SILENCE A soundscape of the Iraqi diaspora in Philadelphia

Alexandre Singh: A Gothic Tale

Fort Mason Center for Arts and Culture

POSTCOMMODITY: THE POINT OF FINAL COLLAPSE

Curators are many different things.

224 - Chicanery

This week we just chat about some odds and ends. In the middle of the show we go to a talk by Jennifer A. González then we come back and talk about it. It's a wild ride!

All the music in this episode is by Y La Bamba

Swing Left!
Jennifer A. González
Theresa Hak Kyung Cha: Avant Dictee
After Harlem Community Protests, Simone Leigh Withdraws Proposal for Central Park Sculpture

Silence your ice buckets!

223 - Public Art Bullshit

This week we talk about some public art institutions behaving badly!

The music in this episode is by Jay Som

Plans for Maya Angelou Monument in San Francisco Face Long Delay
Audio Archive: Arts Commission Visual Arts Committee
After Harlem Community Protests, Simone Leigh Withdraws Proposal for Central Park Sculpture
Following Layoffs, Former Employees Protest at Marciano Art Foundation, Demanding Reopening and Recognition of Union
SEIU 1021 SFAI Bargaining Survey 2019

Expand your mind beyond statuary! 

222 - 2019 Voter Guide

This week we give our endorsements for San Francisco's next election.

Election day is Tuesday, November 5th!

The music in this episode is by Pit Stains

San Francisco Department of Elections
Alameda County Official Elections Site
Chesa Boudin on Democracy Now!
SF supervisor candidate Dean Preston to ‘rogue’ landlords: ‘We should run you out of town’
Valie Brown Evictions
This remix of Ellen’s pathetic defense of George W. Bush is devastating
Harvey Milk LGBTQ Democratic Club

Vote and if you can't vote- tell other people to vote!

221 - Power Tulle (with Dana Hemenway)

This week we talk to artist, Dana Hemenway! We discuss growing up in Petaluma, being a punk kid, tutu material, art handling, and the sounds of electricity.

Most of the music in this episode is by Nineteen Eightyfour

Dana Hemenway
Eleanor Harwood Gallery
Camille Utterback
Tasmania
50 Best ASMR Youtube Videos That Tingle and Relax

This is a Tasmanian devil.

220 - Sunrise

This week Maysoun shares an account of going to the Indigenous Peoples Day Sunrise Gathering in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the occupation of Alcatraz. We also talk about gemstones and lighting.

The Continuous Thread: Celebrating Our Interwoven Histories, Identities and Contributions
SOMA Pilipinas Events
Litquake Schedule

G E M S

219 - The Best Restrooms

This week we accidentally explore the best restrooms of the Bay Area while we're trying to answer a listener question about YBCA's new open call for curatorial proposals.

All the music in this episode is by No Vacation

Need to pee? Just download this app. What could go wrong?
Oakland Museum of California announces $85 million improvement plan
Ear Hustle
Alternative Exposure
Oakland Stock
The Awesome Foundation

Look at the size of that plant!

218 - We're back again!

This week we're back on our regular schedule. We really mean it this time! We mainly talk about Morgan Bassichis, our new favorite of all time. We also talk about some shows, some babies, and some corrections.

All the music in this episode is by Morgan Bassichis

More Protest Songs by Morgan Bassichis

Shoutout to Elaine Stritch!

217 - Forensic Forms!

CORRECTION: NORWICH IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE UK! This week we catch up on all the stuff we didn't get a chance to chat about while we were on our summer break. We do a Forensic Forms™ segment where Maysoun describes an artwork and Kate tries to guess how it was made. There are a few television show references in this episode, so we're sorry if you're not tapped into pop culture and you don't understand what is going on. You can email us for explanations.

All the music in this episode is by XUXA SANTAMARIA (buy their new album!)

The Emma Goldman Papers
Eleanor Harwood Gallery
Casemore Kirkeby
Royal NoneSuch Gallery
Central Iowa DSA
Pittsburgh DSA
Episode where we talk about the meaning of art

This is a kitten heel.

216 - Think About Fish (with Anne Walsh Jr.)

Wow, listeners. We had a hell of a chat with artist, Anne Walsh. Kate was really on one. We talk about the afterlife, fan letters, studio visits, exchanging energy, and Leonora Carrington.

Most of the music in this episode is by Beyoncé

Hello Leonora, Soy Anne Walsh
Anne Walsh Jr.
The Hearing Trumpet

Aspiring crones unite!

215 - Pop Culture and Trauma (with Việt Lê)

This week we chat with artist and scholar, Việt Lê. He weighs in on the Bay vs. LA! We also chat about failure, K-pop, the Vietnamese diaspora, and empathy machines.

All the music in this episode is by Wizard Apprentice

 Việt Lê
The Queer Art of Failure
The Wonder Gays

The fog rolls in!

214 - Eye Pleasure (with Craig Calderwood)

This week we have a glorious conversation with artist, Craig Calderwood. We talk about Dance Moms, hand massages, integrity, becoming ambidextrous, Fresno, and video games.  Craig is in a show opening tonight (8/24) at Guerrero Gallery from 6-9! Up until September 21st! Go!

Most of the music in this episode is by Giraffage

Craig Calderwood
Dance Moms ASMR
The Fresno Art Museum

SMASH ULTIMATE!

213 - Miracles! (with Lindsey White)

This week we ponder comedy, magic, and sandwiches with Lindsey White. Lindsey is an artist and educator in San Francisco. We also do a musical number and Maysoun recovers from a cold.

Most of the music in this episode is by Jack Hertz

Lindsey White
Quarter of Oklahoma
Morgan Bassichis
Jo Firestone
American Museum of Magic

Abracadabra!

212 - Making Sponges (with Nancy Lim)

This week we talk to Nancy Lim! She is the assistant curator of painting and sculpture at SFMOMA. We chat about sponges, zoos, children's books, and so much more. Even though New York comes up in this interview we do not discuss pizza. So points to us for self control.

All the music in this episode is by the cubby creatures

Jess
di Rosa Center for Contemporary Art
Picasso and Lump
Arts + All Museums Salary Transparency

Not sea sponges, though.

211 - Pizza Wars (with Surabhi Saraf)

This week we talk to artist, Surabhi Saraf about the Center for Emotional Materiality and why Kate couldn't convince an AI that it was a dog. We also all take sides on which region has the best pizza. Turns out it's New York.

The music in this episode is by San Cha

Surabhi Saraf
Center for Emotional Materiality
Pizzeria Uno
Pizzeria Due
Root Division

Pizza time, baby!

210 - What a Week!

This week we talk about all the stuff going on at 500 Capp St. We also chat about Kate selling her non-existent soul to Facebook, the mural at George Washington High School, and a great meal Maysoun had at Cafe Ohlone. We also have a lovely call from a listener.

Most of the music in this episode is by Sleep It Off

Remembering Kevin Killian: Poet, Playwright and Artist Who ‘Gave Us Courage’
500 Capp Street Lays Off Head Curator, Creates Confusion About Future Exhibitions
The LAB's Kickstarter!
Cafe Ohlone

Check with your cosmologist about the weeks ahead!

209 - Punk Sports (with Astria Suparak)

This week we have an energetic chat with independent curator, Astria Suparak! We talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Yes Men, Riot Grrrl, and splendid small museums. Kate tries to convince the listeners to move to Pennsylvania again. Stay cool out there, listeners!

All the music in this episode is by Horrible/Adorable 

Astria Suparak
INCITE Journal of Experimental Media: SPORTS
Arts + All Museums Salary Transparency

Riot Grrrl Map
The Yes Men
L.J. Roberts

Go, team, go!

208 - Capricorn (with Cece Carpio)

This week we have a rollicking chat with artist, Cece Carpio. We talk about painting at night, being a powerhouse, and finding love in the stars. We also talked for about 25 minutes about Game of Thrones, but I cut it. You're welcome.

All the music in this episode is by Tycho

Cece Carpio

Trust Your Struggle 

Keep it earthy.

207 - Bones to Pick

This week we're talking about artistic inspiration, egg timers, the 2020 presidential election, and the VA's mindfulness app. Plus Kate goes off about how Cobb's Comedy Club is a major rip off! She doesn't care who knows it!

Almost all the music in this episode is by BLAUS

Mindfulness Coach
SwingLeft
What The Potential 2020 Candidates Are Doing And Saying, Vol. 18 from 538
The Gerrymandering Project
2020 ELECTIONS from Politico
THE LEGENDARY PUNCH LINE COMEDY CLUB IS CLOSING

BONES!

206 - Clay Bully!

Dreams are coming true! We have more listener feedback this week! We decide what to do about a bully at the ceramics studio. We also try to help an introvert figure out how to make friends in the Bay Area art scene. Please let us know if you have better advice than what we came up with.

All the music in this episode is by Judy and the Jerks

Keep writing in!

205 - Summer Plans

This week we talk about our plans for this summer! We also give some recommendations for toddler-friendly art shows and some more artist dating advice.

I need everyone to know that I (Kate) had a dream last night that I was driving Hito Steyerl around Oakland. It was great! Best dream ever!

All the music in this episode is by Thao & The Get Down Stay Down

Brad Troemel
Arts Funder Under Fire for Evicting Family Next to David Ireland House

Let the good times roll!

204 - Spring Love Advice

It's time for us to give terrible art love advice to listeners! We're not doctor Ruth, but we do have a podcast. We talk about pretending to be poly, dating apps, ghosting people in the art scene, and the one time Kate went on a date with a man.

All the music in this episode is by Sleater-Kinney

The Pacific Center

California Institute of Integral Studies

Women's Therapy Center

Love is in the air!

203 - Bluets (with Marcela Pardo Ariza)

This week we talk to one of our favorite artists, Marcela Pardo Ariza. We chat about the midwest, changing the bro-esque world of art handling, and doing your homework on Bart. We also have some very exciting listener feedback and Kate talks about her experience with the wacky world of kids' YouTube.

Thank you so much to donors, William Koone and Jim Prosser!!!

All the music in this episode is by Introflirt

Marcela Pardo Ariza
WOMXN* ART HANDLERS

We're keeping it on the level this week!

202 - No, Charles!

This week we have a good old fashioned chit chat. We've got some hot goss about Charles at the Chronicle. We also talk about Kate's most recent gaffes and embarrassments.

All the music in this episode is by BLAUS

BONANZA
The Growlery
Once at Present
Cloaca Project
Kunstcapades (shoutout to Jimmy Twoshirts)
Gary Garrels
Southern Exposure
Johansson Projects
Et al
David Bayus
Reuben Lorch-Miller

CHARLES IS NOT IN CHARGE!

201 - Yellow (with Lukaza Branfman-Verissimo)

This week we have a lovely chat with artist, Lukaza Branfman-Verissimo! We talk about having a singular vision, the color yellow, and who takes out the garbage at CTRL+SHFT. We also make our official CPT democratic primary endorsement!

The song in this episode is by The Innocence Mission

Lukaza Branfman-Verissimo
Bernie 2020

Yellow is everything.

200 - Out in Public

For our TWO HUNDREDTH EPISODE we hit the streets and interview people in front of Cupid's Span, the big bow and arrow sculpture on the Embarcadero. We also chat with some folks visiting SFMOMA on family free day. Even a friendly seagull makes an appearance! Thank you all for being with us for these tender 200 episodes. We love you.

Almost all the music in this episode is by Earthbound

Tracy Chapman
Left at London (who salutes the lesbian flag)
The LAB
Aggregate Space
Biking in the rain

Seagulls love to chat.

From the Archive: Ethicstravaganza!

This week we reflect on our one year anniversary episode all the way from 2015! Some familiar voices call in and help us sort out the art world's code of ethics!

Our 200th episode will be coming at you next week.

This is a cat pawing at a sliding glass door.

From the Archive: The Treasure Room!

This week we're taking a trip down memory lane to remember the first time we went to the International Art Museum of America!

This episode first aired on December 22nd, 2014.

Save the lab! (Sign this petition!)

Take a little trip down memory lane!

199 - Unseen Forces (with Claudia La Rocco)

This week we chat with writer and editor-in-chief of Open Space, Claudia La Rocco. We discuss Bay Area art criticism, the greatest hike in Maine, and performance art tropes. Claudia also shares some great writing advice for beginners.

All the music in this episode is by WIZARD APPRENTICE

Open Space
Abolish the Tiki Bar by Sarah Burke
Sonnet
Pantoum
Haiku
Sestina
Limerick
Villanelle
Aubade

Special thanks to Nancy!

It's Maine!

198 - Free for All (with Maria Jenson)

This week we have a rollicking chat with Maria Jenson, the executive director of SOMArts. We chat about transitioning from working at a major museum to a community-based arts organization. We also talk about Greek theater, scooter riders, and raves.

All the music in this episode is by Idris Ackamoor and the Pyramids

SOMArts
Augusto Boal

SOMArts has it all.

197 - Prop E Money

This week Shannon joins us to explain what's going on with Proposition E and where all that tax money is going to go. We also do some shoutouts and talk about a badass scale model.

All the music in this episode is by Cubby Creatures

Volunteer for Southern Exposure's auction!
Take Part - the scale model of San Francisco project!

We are crunching the numbers!

196 - Peaches (with Cathy Lu)

This week we get waist deep in clay and fruit juice with artist, Cathy Lu. Plus, Maysoun is back! We talk papaya, guava, blood, Florida, lung safety, and hand care. Who could ask for anything more!?

All the music in this episode is by Dogon Lights

Cathy Lu
Johansson Projects
Recology
SFAC Prequalified Pool (Deadline: 3/7)
Silicosis

Obscene!

195 - Air! (with Amy Balkin)

This week Kate chats with artist, Amy Balkin. Amy has been grappling with climate change for over a decade. Kate asks her to weigh in on disasters, the dairy industry, existential crises, and Ed Begley Junior.

All the music in this episode is by San Cha

Amy Balkin
GREENACTION
SMOG INDEX
Andres Chang
The Center on Race, Poverty & the Environment
Against the Anthropocene: Visual Culture and Environment Today
The Natural History Museum
Platform
Climate: A Very Short Introduction
Global Warming: A Very Short Introduction
RAF / Reduce Art Flights
Gustav Metzger: a true art revolutionary and a wonderful human being
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Tickets for the Cliterary Salon!

WE GOTTA SORT THIS SHIT OUT, PEOPLE!

194 - Salt Lamps (with Sarah Thibault)

This week artist and arts organizer, Sarah Thibault guest hosts while Maysoun is doing a covert international mission. We do some real shop talk about painting and Minnesota politics! Also Sarah helps Kate discover her geographic astrological zones.

All the music in this episode is by Toro y Moi

Sarah Thibault
David Lasley
The Painting Salon
New American Paintings
Astro.com
ArtistsTravel.space
Why So Many Icelanders Still Believe in Invisible Elves

Take the survey to figure out arts funding in SF!

Don't lick them!?

193 - First Ramble of 2019

Research assistant Katy Kondo joins us this week while Maysoun is engaged in spy work somewhere outside of the United States. We will share some delightful upcoming events with you!

All the music in this episode is by Ma Crow and the Lady Slippers

Take the poll for SF arts funding!!! https://sf.arts-impact.com/poll
Tell your friends!

Shoutout to radio stations WOSU!

Some Poems

No new episode this week! Instead, we present you with some poems.

Read more poetry in 2019!

Tongo Eisen Martin - buy his book
Maxine Chernoff - buy her book
Brandon Brown - buy his book

192 - Kiln Secrets! (with Nicki Green)

This week we are overjoyed to talk to artist, Nicki Green. She gives us the deep dish on Vulcan hand gestures, mushrooms, mikvehs, and so much more! Have a safe and happy new year, listeners!

CORRECTION: Nicki's performance lecture is at Fused Space from 4 - 6pm on January 9th and is in tandem with a reading from Claudia La Rocco.

All the music in this episode is by XOA

Nicki Green
Ehrin Toole
John DeFazio
Peter Voulkos
Viola Frey
The Bay Area's Best Visual Art of 2018 (IMHO) by Sarah Hotchkiss
Peephole Cinema

Kiln Furniture!

191 - Crochet the Land (with Beatrice L. Thomas)

This week we talk with artist, performer, and everything, Beatrice L. Thomas. We talk land art, drag, racial edging, gaming your brain, cowboy hats, and so much more!

All the music in this episode is by Twilight

Beatrice L. Thomas Coaching and Consulting
Black Benatar on KALW
Brava Theater
The Hitter (1979)

Crochet the grand canyon!

190 - Anarchy (with Dena Beard)

This week we have a rollicking chat with Dena Beard, the director and plumber of the LAB! She shares her leadership philosophy, her fashion secrets, and her love for parking garages.

All the music in this episode is by FM-84

The LAB (Donate!)
Sign this petition to save the Red Stone Labor Temple (the home of the LAB!)
W.A.G.E.
Bay Area Common Wealth
Bay Area Art Ecosystem map by Carrie Hott
Where do you feel belonging in the Bay Area? - Christine Wong Yap's project

Potatoes are an excellent source of carbohydrates and fiber.

189 - Living at the Crossroads

This week we talk about stuff happening at the Wattis, being post-exhibition, and robots that have the dexterity of a human hand. We're also sad that Sarah Thibault is moving away. Plus the laundromats are disappearing!

Pretty much all the music in this episode is by Idris Ackamoor and the Pyramids

WAGENCY
Roscoe Mitchell
Craig Calderwood
Stephanie Rohlfs
Sarah Thibault 
Alysse Stepanian
Martha Rosler and Hito Steyerl

I might meet you up at the crossroads.

188 - Rabbit Holes (with Jenny Odell)

This week artist, writer, and birder Jenny Odell tells us about the invasion of the business snatchers! I can't even type anything about it, because it's too byzantine and bizarre. We also talk about other internet things and whether humanity is fucked or not.

All the music in this episode is by Ghosts of Lightning

A Business With No End
How to Internet
How to Do Nothing
There's No Such Thing as a Free Watch

The World's Most Expensive Free Watch on Reply All
How the weird, unfiltered internet became a media goldmine by Joe Veix
Something is wrong on the internet by James Bridle

This is what the internet is like.

187 - Group Dynamics

This week we have a ton of listener questions to answer! We talk about art colonies, cults, group dynamics, and John Cage. Maysoun also reviews a talk given by Carrie Mae Weems and the Ragnar Kjartansson performance piece that happened at the Women's Building.

All the music in this episode is by the Homophones

GREX

Donate to these:
The Women's Buidling
GoFundMe Sites for people dealing with the wildfires
Camp Fire Evacuation Relief Fund

 Breakdown the hierarchies! 

186 - From the Car

This week Kate is giving Maysoun a ride to the de Young. We talk about the election results, a guy who wrote a book, and French sociologists. Plus we have some treasured listener feedback!

All this music in this episode is by Favors

Carrie Mae Weems
What it Means to Write About Art by Jarrett Earnest
Kate's weird video
http://spacecats.org/
Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste (Introduction)

Welcome to my two year campaign to get CA progressives to move to the midwest!

185 - Trouble on Steroids

This week Kate has poison oak in her eye and is on Prednisone. Be careful in the woods, people! We talk about the trouble going on at SFAI and Galleria de la Raza and some of the other bullshit going on.

All the music in this episode is by The Coup

Galleria de la Raza
EtherBrown.com
What Happens When All the Curators are Gone? by Sarah Hotchkiss for KQED

Leaves of three let it be, but really just don't touch ANY plant matter!

From the Archive: Christine Wong Yap

This week we're digging into the archives. Enjoy a classic interview with beloved artist and thinker, Christine Wong Yap! This interview was originally aired on February 8th, 2015. Where does the time go? Check out Christine's project, Belonging at the CCA Hubbell Street Galleries in San Francisco from now until November 16th!

The music in this episode is by Creative Adult and Tycho

Christine Wong Yap

We love archives!

184 - If you get, give. (with Lex Leifheit)

This week we get into the nitty gritty of email organization and arts education with Lex Leifheit! She is the former director of SOMArts, currently works in the San Francisco Office of Economic and Workforce Development, and is running for the Board of Education in SF! The election is November 6th!

All the music in this episode is by Lumerians

Lex Leifheit
About the show at Fused Space
Planet Celadon!
Loco Bloco
Performing Arts Workshop
Ruth Asawa San Francisco School of the Arts
SFUSD Frequently Asked Questions

Everyone deserves access to arts education!