What the hell is going on?! What's going to happen!? The SF art scene is having a cataclysmic disaster lately! We discuss some of it.
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
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| Yikes! |
Artists Live Here: Community Convening
Bay Area Artists Connect: BayAreaArtistsConnect@proton.me
The AI spending frenzy is so huge that it makes no sense
Financial Crisis Forces SF’s Mission Cultural Center for Latino Arts to Close
This week we talk to artist, Torreya Cummings about THE WEST! We discuss the closing of CCA, birdwatching, desktop wallpapers, sailors, trees, radios, and so much more!
the music in this episode is by Ohmios
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| Trees! |
Kate gets backwards offended this episode. Maysoun draws things from verbal descriptions. We discuss the shows at the Richmond Art Center. Folks, Kate was tired editing this one. Good luck.
The music in this episode is by Beyond The Struttosphere
Atrium! Fog! Other stuff! Kate finds a way to work Stephen Sondheim into every conversation. Maysoun wants to make certificates.
the music in this episode is by aivi & surasshu
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| Fog. |
Kate announces a new weekly mixer! Fridays 5pm - 6pm at Et al. Make new friends and keep the old! We address a listener's question about making friends in the art world.
Music in this episode is by The Good Life
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| Ring the bell of friendship! |
Why It’s So Hard to Make New Friends as an Adult - Psychology Today
We are fools this episode. Happy New Year! Maysoun went to Chicago! Kate went to Berkeley! We plan out our beginning-of-the-year expeditions.
The music in this episode is by SAMMI
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| Starting strong! |
Remembering Yoko Ono's "Cut Piece" by Julia Bryan-Wilson
Your Guide to the Bay Area’s Biggest Art Month by Sarah Hotchkiss
This week we talk to artist, Helia Pouyanfar. We go off about rice, the refugee body, fog descending upon the earth, and of course, cats.
The music in this episode is by The Good Life
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| Rice is from everywhere! |
This week we talk with Tessa Siddle and Ariel Zaccheo about beloved San Francisco gallery and micro-cinema, Artist Television Access. Donate to them! We love ATA!!!
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
This week we have listener feedback from an artist who works in tech. We also hear from a listener who applied to Bemis, the residency in Omaha. Plus Kate went to a breathwork session and is flummoxed by it.
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
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| Don't forget to breathe! |
This week we went to see 8 Hours of Work at the Wattis. We had to infiltrate, take an elevator, and take in about 900 hours of video. We both get emotional in different ways. We also appreciate Julia Bryan-Wilson and Italo Calvino.
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
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| SOLIDARITY FOREVER! |
This week we talk about several alternatives to traditional (expensive) art schools. We ask the big questions and speculate about the big answers. Maysoun has a cold but she is going to be ok. Thank you to the listener who wrote in about the co-op!
The music in this episode is by AL GHARIB
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| A pleasure to have in class. |
This week we talk about ICE (oink, oink, PIGS!) We also hear back from the listener with the upside-down painting. We premiere a new email address!
The music in this episode is by aivi & surasshu
We love you and miss you so much, Margaret Tedesco. This episode was originally posted February 10th, 2016.
The music in this episode is by XUXA SANTAMARIA
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| dance, dance, dance |
[2nd floor projects]
(the Glen that Margaret talks about is Glen Helfand)
Kevin Killian
Eileen Myles
Dennis Cooper
Gina Lollobrigida
Gregory's Girl - Dancing Scene
This week Maysoun and Kate take on the big questions! When should artists compromise their integrity? How can we communicate well in difficult situations? What the hell is going on? All this and more on Congratulations Pine Tree.
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
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| Inversion! |
Who Has a Say in the Flood of Public Art Coming to San Francisco?
This week we have a glorious conversation with artist and educator, Kija Lucas. We talk about misplaced plant species, photo glitches, getting down to business, mental health, and the dramas of installing wallpaper.
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
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| Take care of your brain! |
This week Kate has a rolicking conversation with artist, Isaac Vazquez Avila. We talk about not-roosters, pyramids, Salt Lake City, painting, and eating digital spiders. It's a hell of a chat!
The music in this episode is by Tommy Guerrero
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| Watch out! |
This week we finally put it all out there.
The intro and outro music for this episode is from Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
This week Katherine Ross Ward joins Kate since Maysoun is on shore leave. Topics covered include babies, the DMV, quilts, gallery food, and censorship! Come take a ride with two Katherines. Plus a baby!
The music in this episode is by ConsciousMind
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| Katherines. |
Routed West at BAMPFA
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| TUATARA! |
Carrie Hott and Kate found another tape if you can believe that! What secrets does it hold?!
Good luck to Carrie on her voyage to Indiana! We love you!!!
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| What can't they do? |
This week Kate went to a show at Slash. We try to figure out what to make when you don't want to make anything. We talk about aliens, but are not impressed by them. We figure out France. Maysoun talks about the bike ride for MECA (the Middle East Children’s Alliance) and you should join in on
The music in this episode is by DJ Daria
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| When you're ready- go! |
Middle East Children’s Alliance
https://www.naughtygirlfitness.com/
This week Kate has gone to an immersive theater experience in the Tenderloin. Maysoun goes to see art in the Tenderloin. Everyone goes to the Tenderloin. Plus coffee.
The music in this episode is by Deerhoof
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| Hot cup o' joe! |
Compton’s Cafeteria Riot (the play)
'It's erasure': One of San Francisco's most celebrated sites is at a crossroads
This week we talk about corporate partnerships, peep shows, and brain fog. Maysoun refuses to accept Kate's mnemonic devices. Maysoun also demands a clap track.
The music in this episode is from Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| PRAISE THE CORPORATE OVERLORDS! |
This week we face off with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross. We play the newlyweds game, talk about what we're reading, and relitigate the dramas of the L-word. Also hotdog costumes.
The music in this episode is by AL GHARIB
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| It was the battle of the century! |
This week we talk about our new nemesis. We also talk about handwriting analysis, whether Kate is a bitch, and how old Maysoun's cats are. We also try our best to talk about fucking Bay Area arts and culture.
The music in this episode is by RITCHRD
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| Relinquish control! |
This week we talk about difficult holidays, some shows that are coming up, and why Maysoun is mad at Kate. Of course the age-old debate about whether cats are Palestinian comes up again. Of course they are Palestinian, but the detractors still can't get onboard.
The music in this episode is by aivi & surasshu
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| Palestinian cat |
Genetics of randomly bred cats support the cradle of cat domestication being in the Near East
This week Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán blesses the podcast with his experience and wisdom! We obviously talk about cats. We also explore bipolar disorder, Watts Towers, grad school, PAINTING, agave in Tepatitlán (which Kate struggles to pronounce), regrets, perseverance, and so much more.
The music in this episode is by aivi & surasshu
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| Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán, "2019 RISD Bipolar Episode", 2022 Collage, graphite and colored pencil on Walmart paper |
Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán: Brown Eyes from Russell Street
Creative Growth
People are making and evaluating various applications this week! Juries are out! Applications are in! How can we begin to make sense of it?!
The music in this episode is by DJ Daria
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| Get those apps into the woodchipper! |
This week we come to terms with the giant naked woman sculpture that has been forced onto us by some kind of techno-libertarian burner foundation. We also talk about starting projects with Joan. Kate FINALLY discusses her favorite art experience of the year so far, a performance at the Lab by Alex Tatarsky.
The music in this episode is by SPELLING
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| When will it end? |
Nobody Asked for This by Sarah Hotchkiss
Inside the Indoor Beach Opera That’s the Talk of the Venice Biennale by Casey Lesser
You Might Call Alex Tatarsky a Playwright. But They Identify as ‘An Experimental Clown Artist’ by Hiji Nam
This week we're talking about a bunch of shit going on. We get confused about a game night. Maysoun refuses to enter legal agreements. We decide who is on the cutting edge.
The music in this episode is from the BDS Mixtape
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| We salute you! |
This week Maysoun is back from Japan. We hear all her stories from the seat of the seat of empire. Snow monkeys! Stationary stores! We also discuss people we're mad at, 12 step programs, and art show things.
The intro and outro music for this episode is from Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| Surf's up! |
The SF public library is accepting submissions for review for Bay Beats local music platform.
FREE Workshops at RTS!
April 5th - Hands Off! San Francisco Fights Back (Civic Center)
16th St. Alliance (we're not fans)
Effective Canadian policy to reduce harms from prescription opioids: learning from past failures
Study of one Safe Injection Facility in Canada
This week artist and gourmand, Mistu Okubo joins Kate for a rousing talk about overdoing it with THC lemonade, friendship among men, and graduate school regrets. Have fun trying to figure out what's behind the bleeps.
The music in this episode is from the BDS Mixtape
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| Don't do it, folks! |
Mitsu Okubo on IG
Mitsu Okubo MERCH
Hoarding Disorder: What It Is, Causes, Symptoms & Treatment
This week gallerist, Aaron Harbour, guest hosts while Maysoun is on her journey. What's discussed? The Alamo, shapes, going outside, what makes good art, dealing with artists who are mad about you dissing their work, and job interviews. Help lil' baby Et al. by supporting their donation drive here.
The music in this episode is from the Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| Don't forget. |
This week we lost it. I can't say more than that.
The music in this episode is from the Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| WELCOME THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA |
This is the longest it has taken me to edit a podcast in a long time. I think it is mainly due to the fact that I got sidetracked reading about Donald Judd in preparation for the release of the SF Review of Whatever! This friday at Et al. Come on by. This week we talk about coyotes, gripes, Irish dancing, BDS, and of course cats.
The music in this episode is from the Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| Stay away from coyotes! |
This week we go to Ancient Ways in Oakland. Maysoun sees a life-changing piano concert. We do some role play. Unbelievably we do not mention cats.
The music in this episode is by Jason Moran
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| We go full witchcraft this week. |
Center for New Music (place Kate couldn't remember)
This week we had the pleasure of talking to curator, educator, and art historian, Kathy Zarur. We talk about human sacrifice, how to teach, cats, and much more. Maysoun also tells a harrowing wildlife encounter story.
The music in this episode is from Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| Possible origin points for domesticated cats. |
This week Maysoun saw the launch of the new video wall on VanNess in San Francisco. She also went to Root Division. Kate has swollen glands and is open to feedback about it.
The music in this episode is from Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape
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| The SF city seal! |
This week we had a car! We head to the Legion of Honor, Fort Mason, and an unnamed gallery. Kate felt too bad about what a scathing review she gave, so she redacted the name of the last place. We also saw frolicing dogs and beautiful vistas.
The music in this episode is from Mixtape for Palestine
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| What's up with that little pyramid? |
Could we be jumping the shark again? We take a really long time to describe a Jeremiah Barber mug. It's amazing audio. We also talk about the reemergence of Cloaca Projects at the Lab! Other topics covered: visiting the West Bank in Palestine, when to visit Kate at the bookstore, weird artist residencies.
The music in this episode is from the BDS Mixtape
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| Mugs: what are they? |
988 Lifeline - the national suicide hotline
Learn about PACBI - Or email us to talk about it! Congratulations PineTree@gmail.com
Weird residency (scam?) - summer-residency.co
This week we talk about a big staff shake-up at SFMOMA. We also talk about gallery work annoyances, break-ins, and a couple thoughts for the new year.
The music in this episode is from Mixtape for Palestine
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| Firings and closings! |
