Congratulations Pine Tree

The Bay's number one arts and culture podcast
with Kate Rhoades and Maysoun Wazwaz

Thursday, February 5, 2026

377 - Know Your Neighbors (with Torreya Cummings)

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 This week we talk to artist, Torreya Cummings about THE WEST! We discuss the closing of CCA, birdwatching, desktop wallpapers, sailors, tre...
Thursday, January 29, 2026

376 - Hard to Describe

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 Kate gets backwards offended this episode. Maysoun draws things from verbal descriptions. We discuss the shows at the Richmond Art Center. ...
Thursday, January 22, 2026

375 - All's Fair

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 Atrium! Fog! Other stuff! Kate finds a way to work Stephen Sondheim into every conversation. Maysoun wants to make certificates. the music ...
Thursday, January 15, 2026

374 - Friendless in Frisco

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 Kate announces a new weekly mixer! Fridays 5pm - 6pm at Et al . Make new friends and keep the old! We address a listener's question abo...
Thursday, January 8, 2026

373 - January Fools

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 We are fools this episode. Happy New Year! Maysoun went to Chicago! Kate went to Berkeley! We plan out our beginning-of-the-year expedition...
Thursday, December 18, 2025

372 - Disorient (with Helia Pouyanfar)

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 This week we talk to artist, Helia Pouyanfar. We go off about rice, the refugee body, fog descending upon the earth, and of course, cats.  ...
Thursday, December 11, 2025

371 - ATA! (with Tessa Siddle and Ariel Zaccheo)

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 This week we talk with Tessa Siddle and Ariel Zaccheo about beloved San Francisco gallery and micro-cinema, Artist Television Access. Donat...
Thursday, December 4, 2025

370 - Bemis Tech Breath

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 This week we have listener feedback from an artist who works in tech. We also hear from a listener who applied to Bemis, the residency in O...
Wednesday, November 26, 2025

369 - Labor at the Wattis

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 This week we went to see 8 Hours of Work at the Wattis. We had to infiltrate, take an elevator, and take in about 900 hours of video. We bo...
Wednesday, November 19, 2025

368 - Free School

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 This week we talk about several alternatives to traditional (expensive) art schools. We ask the big questions and speculate about the big a...
Wednesday, October 29, 2025

367 - Morning Pages

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 This week we talk about ICE (oink, oink, PIGS!) We also hear back from the listener with the upside-down painting. We premiere a new email ...
Tuesday, October 21, 2025

366 - Margaret Tedesco

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 We love you and miss you so much, Margaret Tedesco. This episode was originally posted February 10th, 2016 . The music in this episode is b...
Tuesday, October 14, 2025

365 - Inverted Integrity

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 This week Maysoun and Kate take on the big questions! When should artists compromise their integrity? How can we communicate well in diffic...
Wednesday, October 1, 2025

364 - Glitched Plants (with Kija Lucas)

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 This week we have a glorious conversation with artist and educator, Kija Lucas. We talk about misplaced plant species, photo glitches, gett...
Wednesday, September 24, 2025

363 - Stepped Fret (with Isaac Vazquez Avila)

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This week Kate has a rolicking conversation with artist, Isaac Vazquez Avila. We talk about not-roosters, pyramids, Salt Lake City, painting...
Wednesday, September 10, 2025

362 - Top 10 Bay Area Arts and Culture

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 This week we finally put it all out there.  The intro and outro music for this episode is from  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape Win...
Wednesday, August 27, 2025

361 - Friendly Radio (with Amanda Guest)

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 This week we talk to Amanda Guest, founder of BFF.fm . We learn about all kinds of radios stuff. Other topics covered include toxic sound t...
Tuesday, August 19, 2025

360 - Sacks (with Katherine Ross Ward)

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 This week Katherine Ross Ward joins Kate since Maysoun is on shore leave. Topics covered include babies, the DMV, quilts, gallery food, and...
Wednesday, August 6, 2025

359 - No World but Brunch (with Kelly Pendergrast)

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This week we talk to writer and arts-related-person, Kelly Pendergrast! We talk about breakfast, disasters, and the heart of the United Stat...
Wednesday, July 23, 2025

Lost Tape: Underwater Olympics

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 Carrie Hott and Kate found another tape if you can believe that! What secrets does it hold?! Good luck to Carrie on her voyage to Indiana! ...
Wednesday, July 16, 2025

357 - Underdark

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 This week Kate went to a show at Slash. We try to figure out what to make when you don't want to make anything. We talk about aliens, b...
Wednesday, July 2, 2025

356 - Coffee Time

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This week Kate has gone to an immersive theater experience in the Tenderloin. Maysoun goes to see art in the Tenderloin. Everyone goes to th...
Wednesday, June 25, 2025

355 - Corporate Partnership

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 This week we talk about corporate partnerships, peep shows, and brain fog. Maysoun refuses to accept Kate's mnemonic devices. Maysoun a...
Wednesday, June 18, 2025

354 - Besties vs. Besties (with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross)

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 This week we face off with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross. We play the newlyweds game, talk about what we're reading, and relitigate the ...
Wednesday, June 4, 2025

353 - Longest Running

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 This week we talk about our new nemesis. We also talk about handwriting analysis,  whether Kate is a bitch, and how old Maysoun's cats ...
Saturday, May 24, 2025

352 - Cutting String

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Maysoun finally takes a stand. She also went to a gallery called TNT. We talk about all kinds of strings and webs. Kate wrote a poem but doe...
Thursday, May 15, 2025

351 - Normal Sunday

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This week we talk about difficult holidays, some shows that are coming up, and why Maysoun is mad at Kate. Of course the age-old debate abou...
Wednesday, May 7, 2025

350 - Ups and Downs (with Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán)

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 This week Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán blesses the podcast with his experience and wisdom! We obviously talk about cats. We also explore bipolar dis...
Thursday, May 1, 2025

349 - Application Time

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 People are making and evaluating various applications this week! Juries are out! Applications are in! How can we begin to make sense of it?...
Wednesday, April 23, 2025

348 - Naked Women

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 This week we come to terms with the giant naked woman sculpture that has been forced onto us by some kind of techno-libertarian burner foun...
Wednesday, April 9, 2025

347 - Bow and Salute

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 This week we're talking about a bunch of shit going on. We get confused about a game night. Maysoun refuses to enter legal agreements. ...
Wednesday, April 2, 2025

346 - Maysoun in Japan

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 This week Maysoun is back from Japan. We hear all her stories from the seat of the seat of empire. Snow monkeys! Stationary stores! We also...
Thursday, March 27, 2025

345 - Nethers (with Mitsu Okubo)

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This week artist and gourmand, Mistu Okubo joins Kate for a rousing talk about overdoing it with THC lemonade, friendship among men, and gra...
Wednesday, March 19, 2025

344 - Sincerity (with Aaron Harbour)

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This week gallerist, Aaron Harbour, guest hosts while Maysoun is on her journey. What's discussed? The Alamo, shapes, going outside, wha...
Wednesday, March 5, 2025

343 - Ferdydurke

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 This week we lost it. I can't say more than that. The music in this episode is from the  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape WELCOM...
Wednesday, February 26, 2025

342 - Kissin' Coyotes

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 This is the longest it has taken me to edit a podcast in a long time. I think it is mainly due to the fact that I got sidetracked reading a...
Wednesday, February 12, 2025

341 - Uncrossing Pianists

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 This week we go to Ancient Ways in Oakland. Maysoun sees a life-changing piano concert. We do some role play. Unbelievably we do not mentio...
Wednesday, February 5, 2025

340 - Ancient History (with Kathy Zarur)

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 This week we had the pleasure of talking to curator, educator, and art historian, Kathy Zarur. We talk about human sacrifice, how to teach,...
Wednesday, January 29, 2025

339 - Gold in Peace, Iron in War

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This week Maysoun saw the launch of the new video wall on VanNess in San Francisco. She also went to Root Division. Kate has swollen glands ...
Wednesday, January 22, 2025

338 - On the Road Again

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 This week we had a car! We head to the Legion of Honor, Fort Mason, and an unnamed gallery. Kate felt too bad about what a scathing review ...
Wednesday, January 8, 2025

337 - Describing a Mug

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Could we be jumping the shark again? We take a really long time to describe a Jeremiah Barber mug. It's amazing audio. We also talk abou...
Thursday, December 26, 2024

336 - Our Bread and Butter

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This week we talk about a big staff shake-up at SFMOMA.  We also talk about gallery work annoyances, break-ins, and a couple thoughts for th...
Wednesday, December 18, 2024

335 - Demand Era Begins

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 This week we navigate broken doors and securitized entry ways! Kate went to a chocolate factory tour. We also discuss radioactive sculpture...
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