Congratulations Pine Tree

The Bay's number one arts and culture podcast
with Kate Rhoades and Maysoun Wazwaz

Wednesday, June 18, 2025

354 - Besties vs. Besties (with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross)

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 This week we face off with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross. We play the newlyweds game, talk about what we're reading, and relitigate the ...
Wednesday, June 4, 2025

353 - Longest Running

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 This week we talk about our new nemesis. We also talk about handwriting analysis,  whether Kate is a bitch, and how old Maysoun's cats ...
Saturday, May 24, 2025

352 - Cutting String

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Maysoun finally takes a stand. She also went to a gallery called TNT. We talk about all kinds of strings and webs. Kate wrote a poem but doe...
Thursday, May 15, 2025

351 - Normal Sunday

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This week we talk about difficult holidays, some shows that are coming up, and why Maysoun is mad at Kate. Of course the age-old debate abou...
Wednesday, May 7, 2025

350 - Ups and Downs (with Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán)

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 This week Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán blesses the podcast with his experience and wisdom! We obviously talk about cats. We also explore bipolar dis...
Thursday, May 1, 2025

349 - Application Time

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 People are making and evaluating various applications this week! Juries are out! Applications are in! How can we begin to make sense of it?...
Wednesday, April 23, 2025

348 - Naked Women

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 This week we come to terms with the giant naked woman sculpture that has been forced onto us by some kind of techno-libertarian burner foun...
Wednesday, April 9, 2025

347 - Bow and Salute

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 This week we're talking about a bunch of shit going on. We get confused about a game night. Maysoun refuses to enter legal agreements. ...
Wednesday, April 2, 2025

346 - Maysoun in Japan

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 This week Maysoun is back from Japan. We hear all her stories from the seat of the seat of empire. Snow monkeys! Stationary stores! We also...
Thursday, March 27, 2025

345 - Nethers (with Mitsu Okubo)

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This week artist and gourmand, Mistu Okubo joins Kate for a rousing talk about overdoing it with THC lemonade, friendship among men, and gra...
Wednesday, March 19, 2025

344 - Sincerity (with Aaron Harbour)

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This week gallerist, Aaron Harbour, guest hosts while Maysoun is on her journey. What's discussed? The Alamo, shapes, going outside, wha...
Wednesday, March 5, 2025

343 - Ferdydurke

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 This week we lost it. I can't say more than that. The music in this episode is from the  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape WELCOM...
Wednesday, February 26, 2025

342 - Kissin' Coyotes

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 This is the longest it has taken me to edit a podcast in a long time. I think it is mainly due to the fact that I got sidetracked reading a...
Wednesday, February 12, 2025

341 - Uncrossing Pianists

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 This week we go to Ancient Ways in Oakland. Maysoun sees a life-changing piano concert. We do some role play. Unbelievably we do not mentio...
Wednesday, February 5, 2025

340 - Ancient History (with Kathy Zarur)

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 This week we had the pleasure of talking to curator, educator, and art historian, Kathy Zarur. We talk about human sacrifice, how to teach,...
Wednesday, January 29, 2025

339 - Gold in Peace, Iron in War

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This week Maysoun saw the launch of the new video wall on VanNess in San Francisco. She also went to Root Division. Kate has swollen glands ...
Wednesday, January 22, 2025

338 - On the Road Again

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 This week we had a car! We head to the Legion of Honor, Fort Mason, and an unnamed gallery. Kate felt too bad about what a scathing review ...
Wednesday, January 8, 2025

337 - Describing a Mug

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Could we be jumping the shark again? We take a really long time to describe a Jeremiah Barber mug. It's amazing audio. We also talk abou...
Thursday, December 26, 2024

336 - Our Bread and Butter

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This week we talk about a big staff shake-up at SFMOMA.  We also talk about gallery work annoyances, break-ins, and a couple thoughts for th...
Wednesday, December 18, 2024

335 - Demand Era Begins

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 This week we navigate broken doors and securitized entry ways! Kate went to a chocolate factory tour. We also discuss radioactive sculpture...
Tuesday, November 26, 2024

334 - Results

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 This week we review the election results. Maysoun goes to the preparation zone. Kate admits she has penguin dislocation. The music in this ...
Monday, October 28, 2024

333 - 2024 Voter Guide!

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This week we give our picks for the 2024 ballot! The music in this episode is from the BDS Mixtape I mean, why not?
Monday, September 23, 2024

332 - Back in the Kitchen

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This week we weigh in on the news! We also talk about moms, how to stop trying to fix everything, and where to join mental health support gr...
Monday, September 16, 2024

331 - Pool Noodle

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 This week we talk about bad news at CCA, Simone Bailey's show at the Headlands, and Kate gives a correction as always. The music in thi...
Monday, August 26, 2024

330 - I Wish to Control the Birds

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 We talk about taking going to a traditional Palestinian embroidery workshop! It was amazing! Kate went to Your Mood Gallery in San Francisc...
Tuesday, August 13, 2024

329 - Ding!

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Kate went to the Berkeley museum and saw Resistance Pleasure by Young Joon Kwak. We also talk about two types of Slash. Kate forgot her taro...
Monday, August 5, 2024

328 - Slippy vs. Grippy

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Maysoun is in a pickle again. Can she get out of it?! We also try to find some dang shoes that are not on the BDS list. We also tell you to ...
Monday, July 29, 2024

327 - Ceramic Magic (with Victor Saucedo)

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 This week we chat with artist, Victor Saucedo. Yes, we talk about cats. Who would we be if we didn't?! We also talk about white suprema...
Sunday, June 30, 2024

326 - Insane in the Membrane FOR TEN YEARS!

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 This week Maysoun and Kate discuss Kate's mental breakdown. We also talk about SF Camerawork, the Audium, and some other art shit. Kate...
Thursday, March 14, 2024

325 - Galaxy Brains

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 We are finally back even though neither of us want to be! We talk about the Palestinian Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel, cold plung...
Thursday, December 14, 2023

324 - Free Palestine

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 This week we are giving you a little morsel before we go on total winter stop down. Then we will rise like a glorious plant of some kind an...
Thursday, November 16, 2023

323 - Erotic Poetry with Elisabeth Nicula

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 Elisabeth Nicula is guest hosting this week while Maysoun is on a mental-wellbeing-break. Elisabeth is a bird enjoyer, an artist, a writer,...
Friday, November 3, 2023

Signal Boost: The War on Palestine Podcast

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 Listen to and support this podcast by Noura Erakat, Ziad Abu-Rish, and Bassam Haddad here:  https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/45457
Wednesday, September 27, 2023

321 - Idea Factory

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 Folks, I swear tro friggin GOD we are gonna have an interview soon. We're losing our damn minds together in our bubble! However, it is ...
Wednesday, September 20, 2023

320 - Betrayal!

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 This week Maysoun decides to betray Kate by having a new favorite artist. It is incredibly hurtful. We also talk about a douchebag art show...
Monday, August 21, 2023

319 - Long Road to Vallejo

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This week Maysoun tries to defend her scary use of periods over text message. Kate talks about a trip to see art in Vallejo. We're in su...
Thursday, August 3, 2023

318 - Meandering Ramble

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 This week we have a good old fashioned ramble! We talk about some events coming up and Kate comes out as an absurdist.   
Thursday, July 20, 2023

317 - Gay Minds (with Leila Weefur)

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 This week Leila Weefur guest hosts and talks with Kate about emerging, Bay Area mandatory history meetings, vegan food, and a shit ton of o...
Friday, June 23, 2023

316 - Swimming Pool USA

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 This week Maysoun and Kate almost get baited into selling swimming pools. This episode is unhinged. I think we should go ahead and take a b...
Thursday, June 15, 2023

315 - Reverse

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 This week we experiment with time. Maysoun premieres her new medical corner segment. We talk about compensation for artists and whether we ...
Thursday, June 8, 2023

314 - Ben Writes In

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 This is a celebration of Ben. The music in this episode is bastiengoat APAture at KSW Real Time and Space - Come have an art studio in Oak...
Wednesday, May 31, 2023

313 - SEKMA Award

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 This week we tell you all about the SECA show that just closed at SFMOMA! Maysoun brings Kate a banana! the music in this episode is by Mya...
Friday, May 26, 2023

312 - Climb Through a Hole

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 Against all odds we have a new episode! We went to the SF State, Cal, and Mills MFA shows! Plus Maysoun went to a dance performance at Fort...
Wednesday, May 10, 2023

311 - Maysoun vs. Children

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This week we reject astrology. Maysoun finally owns up to her hatred of children. Kate rants about social media and its impact on art shit a...
Thursday, May 4, 2023

310 - Screwy Decimal

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 This week Kate refuses to get out of bed. Maysoun tried to defend the dewey decimal system until she find out what a douche he is. We talk ...
Tuesday, April 11, 2023

308 - Nus

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 This week Kate and Maysoun try to coordinate outfits for the Hunky Jesus contest. I can't remember which Jesus won. Maysoun finally got...
Thursday, March 30, 2023

307 - Hold, Please!

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 This week we shout loudly from the rooftops about some shows, Maysoun POPS OFF on Salesforce Tower, and Kate talks to herself. We learn abo...
Thursday, March 23, 2023

306 - Do you have a moment?

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 Maysoun has solved a lot of problems in this episode. We talk about how to repair relationships, help your friend stop getting cornered at ...
Wednesday, March 15, 2023

305 - Tainted by Ohio

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 This week Maysoun and Kate find out which international art stars are coming to the Headlands and how many of them are from Ohio. Kate begs...
Wednesday, March 8, 2023

304 - Family Friendly

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 This week we are cleaning up the show! Also we went to Fort Mason, not to be confused with Fort Maysoun. We saw a show by Kija Lucas and a ...
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