Congratulations Pine Tree

The Bay's number one arts and culture podcast
with Kate Rhoades and Maysoun Wazwaz

Wednesday, October 29, 2025

367 - Morning Pages

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 This week we talk about ICE (oink, oink, PIGS!) We also hear back from the listener with the upside-down painting. We premiere a new email ...
Tuesday, October 21, 2025

366 - Margaret Tedesco

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 We love you and miss you so much, Margaret Tedesco. This episode was originally posted February 10th, 2016 . The music in this episode is b...
Tuesday, October 14, 2025

365 - Inverted Integrity

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 This week Maysoun and Kate take on the big questions! When should artists compromise their integrity? How can we communicate well in diffic...
Wednesday, October 1, 2025

364 - Glitched Plants (with Kija Lucas)

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 This week we have a glorious conversation with artist and educator, Kija Lucas. We talk about misplaced plant species, photo glitches, gett...
Wednesday, September 24, 2025

363 - Stepped Fret (with Isaac Vazquez Avila)

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This week Kate has a rolicking conversation with artist, Isaac Vazquez Avila. We talk about not-roosters, pyramids, Salt Lake City, painting...
Wednesday, September 10, 2025

362 - Top 10 Bay Area Arts and Culture

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 This week we finally put it all out there.  The intro and outro music for this episode is from  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape Win...
Wednesday, August 27, 2025

361 - Friendly Radio (with Amanda Guest)

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 This week we talk to Amanda Guest, founder of BFF.fm . We learn about all kinds of radios stuff. Other topics covered include toxic sound t...
Tuesday, August 19, 2025

360 - Sacks (with Katherine Ross Ward)

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 This week Katherine Ross Ward joins Kate since Maysoun is on shore leave. Topics covered include babies, the DMV, quilts, gallery food, and...
Wednesday, August 6, 2025

359 - No World but Brunch (with Kelly Pendergrast)

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This week we talk to writer and arts-related-person, Kelly Pendergrast! We talk about breakfast, disasters, and the heart of the United Stat...
Wednesday, July 23, 2025

Lost Tape: Underwater Olympics

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 Carrie Hott and Kate found another tape if you can believe that! What secrets does it hold?! Good luck to Carrie on her voyage to Indiana! ...
Wednesday, July 16, 2025

357 - Underdark

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 This week Kate went to a show at Slash. We try to figure out what to make when you don't want to make anything. We talk about aliens, b...
Wednesday, July 2, 2025

356 - Coffee Time

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This week Kate has gone to an immersive theater experience in the Tenderloin. Maysoun goes to see art in the Tenderloin. Everyone goes to th...
Wednesday, June 25, 2025

355 - Corporate Partnership

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 This week we talk about corporate partnerships, peep shows, and brain fog. Maysoun refuses to accept Kate's mnemonic devices. Maysoun a...
Wednesday, June 18, 2025

354 - Besties vs. Besties (with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross)

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 This week we face off with Leila Weefur and Elena Gross. We play the newlyweds game, talk about what we're reading, and relitigate the ...
Wednesday, June 4, 2025

353 - Longest Running

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 This week we talk about our new nemesis. We also talk about handwriting analysis,  whether Kate is a bitch, and how old Maysoun's cats ...
Saturday, May 24, 2025

352 - Cutting String

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Maysoun finally takes a stand. She also went to a gallery called TNT. We talk about all kinds of strings and webs. Kate wrote a poem but doe...
Thursday, May 15, 2025

351 - Normal Sunday

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This week we talk about difficult holidays, some shows that are coming up, and why Maysoun is mad at Kate. Of course the age-old debate abou...
Wednesday, May 7, 2025

350 - Ups and Downs (with Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán)

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 This week Héctor Muñoz-Guzmán blesses the podcast with his experience and wisdom! We obviously talk about cats. We also explore bipolar dis...
Thursday, May 1, 2025

349 - Application Time

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 People are making and evaluating various applications this week! Juries are out! Applications are in! How can we begin to make sense of it?...
Wednesday, April 23, 2025

348 - Naked Women

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 This week we come to terms with the giant naked woman sculpture that has been forced onto us by some kind of techno-libertarian burner foun...
Wednesday, April 9, 2025

347 - Bow and Salute

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 This week we're talking about a bunch of shit going on. We get confused about a game night. Maysoun refuses to enter legal agreements. ...
Wednesday, April 2, 2025

346 - Maysoun in Japan

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 This week Maysoun is back from Japan. We hear all her stories from the seat of the seat of empire. Snow monkeys! Stationary stores! We also...
Thursday, March 27, 2025

345 - Nethers (with Mitsu Okubo)

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This week artist and gourmand, Mistu Okubo joins Kate for a rousing talk about overdoing it with THC lemonade, friendship among men, and gra...
Wednesday, March 19, 2025

344 - Sincerity (with Aaron Harbour)

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This week gallerist, Aaron Harbour, guest hosts while Maysoun is on her journey. What's discussed? The Alamo, shapes, going outside, wha...
Wednesday, March 5, 2025

343 - Ferdydurke

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 This week we lost it. I can't say more than that. The music in this episode is from the  Musicians for a Free Palestine Mix Tape WELCOM...
Wednesday, February 26, 2025

342 - Kissin' Coyotes

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 This is the longest it has taken me to edit a podcast in a long time. I think it is mainly due to the fact that I got sidetracked reading a...
Wednesday, February 12, 2025

341 - Uncrossing Pianists

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 This week we go to Ancient Ways in Oakland. Maysoun sees a life-changing piano concert. We do some role play. Unbelievably we do not mentio...
Wednesday, February 5, 2025

340 - Ancient History (with Kathy Zarur)

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 This week we had the pleasure of talking to curator, educator, and art historian, Kathy Zarur. We talk about human sacrifice, how to teach,...
Wednesday, January 29, 2025

339 - Gold in Peace, Iron in War

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This week Maysoun saw the launch of the new video wall on VanNess in San Francisco. She also went to Root Division. Kate has swollen glands ...
Wednesday, January 22, 2025

338 - On the Road Again

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 This week we had a car! We head to the Legion of Honor, Fort Mason, and an unnamed gallery. Kate felt too bad about what a scathing review ...
Wednesday, January 8, 2025

337 - Describing a Mug

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Could we be jumping the shark again? We take a really long time to describe a Jeremiah Barber mug. It's amazing audio. We also talk abou...
Thursday, December 26, 2024

336 - Our Bread and Butter

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This week we talk about a big staff shake-up at SFMOMA.  We also talk about gallery work annoyances, break-ins, and a couple thoughts for th...
Wednesday, December 18, 2024

335 - Demand Era Begins

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 This week we navigate broken doors and securitized entry ways! Kate went to a chocolate factory tour. We also discuss radioactive sculpture...
Tuesday, November 26, 2024

334 - Results

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 This week we review the election results. Maysoun goes to the preparation zone. Kate admits she has penguin dislocation. The music in this ...
Monday, October 28, 2024

333 - 2024 Voter Guide!

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This week we give our picks for the 2024 ballot! The music in this episode is from the BDS Mixtape I mean, why not?
Monday, September 23, 2024

332 - Back in the Kitchen

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This week we weigh in on the news! We also talk about moms, how to stop trying to fix everything, and where to join mental health support gr...
Monday, September 16, 2024

331 - Pool Noodle

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 This week we talk about bad news at CCA, Simone Bailey's show at the Headlands, and Kate gives a correction as always. The music in thi...
Monday, August 26, 2024

330 - I Wish to Control the Birds

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 We talk about taking going to a traditional Palestinian embroidery workshop! It was amazing! Kate went to Your Mood Gallery in San Francisc...
Tuesday, August 13, 2024

329 - Ding!

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Kate went to the Berkeley museum and saw Resistance Pleasure by Young Joon Kwak. We also talk about two types of Slash. Kate forgot her taro...
Monday, August 5, 2024

328 - Slippy vs. Grippy

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Maysoun is in a pickle again. Can she get out of it?! We also try to find some dang shoes that are not on the BDS list. We also tell you to ...
Monday, July 29, 2024

327 - Ceramic Magic (with Victor Saucedo)

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 This week we chat with artist, Victor Saucedo. Yes, we talk about cats. Who would we be if we didn't?! We also talk about white suprema...
Sunday, June 30, 2024

326 - Insane in the Membrane FOR TEN YEARS!

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 This week Maysoun and Kate discuss Kate's mental breakdown. We also talk about SF Camerawork, the Audium, and some other art shit. Kate...
Thursday, March 14, 2024

325 - Galaxy Brains

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 We are finally back even though neither of us want to be! We talk about the Palestinian Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel, cold plung...
Thursday, December 14, 2023

324 - Free Palestine

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 This week we are giving you a little morsel before we go on total winter stop down. Then we will rise like a glorious plant of some kind an...
Thursday, November 16, 2023

323 - Erotic Poetry with Elisabeth Nicula

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 Elisabeth Nicula is guest hosting this week while Maysoun is on a mental-wellbeing-break. Elisabeth is a bird enjoyer, an artist, a writer,...
Friday, November 3, 2023

Signal Boost: The War on Palestine Podcast

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 Listen to and support this podcast by Noura Erakat, Ziad Abu-Rish, and Bassam Haddad here:  https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/45457
Wednesday, September 27, 2023

321 - Idea Factory

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 Folks, I swear tro friggin GOD we are gonna have an interview soon. We're losing our damn minds together in our bubble! However, it is ...
Wednesday, September 20, 2023

320 - Betrayal!

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 This week Maysoun decides to betray Kate by having a new favorite artist. It is incredibly hurtful. We also talk about a douchebag art show...
Monday, August 21, 2023

319 - Long Road to Vallejo

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This week Maysoun tries to defend her scary use of periods over text message. Kate talks about a trip to see art in Vallejo. We're in su...
Thursday, August 3, 2023

318 - Meandering Ramble

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 This week we have a good old fashioned ramble! We talk about some events coming up and Kate comes out as an absurdist.   
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