Friday, March 16, 2018

165 - What a World

This week talk about what the hell is going on at Southern Exposure. We also talk about shows we've seen, Falafel Drive In, and respecting the Bay Area wildlife.

All the music in this episode is by No Babies

Falafel Drive In
Gibson Art Projects
tmoro projects
Art & Dialogue: San Francisco with Helen Molesworth at The Lab
New Langton Arts

Things that make you go "hmmm"

Friday, March 9, 2018

Cat Purring

This week we're waiting for you to send in your building pictures to

Special thanks to Bungie.

What a sweet cat!

Friday, March 2, 2018

164 - Sitting (with Sofía Córdova)

Artist and legend, Sofía Córdova guest hosts this week while Maysoun is out of town! We talk studio chairs, studio snacks, being a Virgo, and taxidermy.

All the music in this episode is by XUXA SANTAMARIA

Sofía Córdova
Krupskaya Books
21 Secrets of the Virgo Personality (I don't endorse this whole list)

Does anyone make vegan string cheese? 

Friday, February 23, 2018

163 - Renaissance (with Dar+Luz Collective)

This week Maysoun and guest host, Nicholas Wylie talk to Yadira Cazares, Ave-Ameenah Long, and Alex Martinez of Dar+Luz Collective. Kate almost totally lost the interview, but then found it! Don't tell Maysoun.


All the music in this episode is by Tycho

Dar+Luz Collective (on the AltEx Grantees Page)
Yadira Cazares
Ave-Ameenah Long
Alex Martinez

Can't wait to see art on a tricycle-based gallery!

Friday, February 16, 2018

162 - Speaking of Money

This week we have some hot and fresh deals for you! We also go on a rant about new architecture. PLUS: a new trivia question! The winner gets whatever they want! (Within reason)

All the music in this episode is by BLAUS

San Francisco Artists and Arts Workers Census Survey 2018
Mission Economic Development Agency
Way Bay at BAMPFA
Adobe Books Gallery
Emily Jacir
McMansion Hell

Do they not understand what earthquakes mean?!

Friday, February 9, 2018

161 - In Memory of Paul Clipson

The Bay Area art community was shocked by the loss of artist Paul Clipson this week. Sasha Arden shared with us an interview they did with Paul last November. If you want to skip our banter and get straight to that it starts at 11:39

All the music in this episode is by Jefre Cantu-Ledesma

Paul Clipson

Paul Clipson, Made of Air (Film still 1) , 2014

Friday, February 2, 2018

160 - Witches and Ghosts (with Aaron Gach)

This week we present to you an interview with artist and magic maker, Aaron Gach! He is fucking awesome.

Center for Tactical Magic


Friday, January 26, 2018

159 - Fakes

This week we go deep on how to fake it. We also have a new TRIVIA QUESTION!!! Plus we finally answer questions in Conrad's Corner.

All the music in this episode is by Tune-Yards

Some NYT article about the SF Mayor drama

Hey, it's the GGB!

Friday, January 19, 2018

From the Archive: Jaime Cortez

This week Kate and Maysoun were stricken with illness, so enjoy an interview from deep in the archive! This interview with Jaime Cortez was originally posted on December 28, 2014. It's one of our favorites.


Jaime Cortez

Pine cones!

Friday, January 12, 2018

158 - Unicorn (with Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Yas Ahmed)

This week we have an illuminating chat with Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Yas Ahmed of the project, The Third Muslim. Go see it at SOMARTS on January 25th! Congratulations to Greg Pond for being this week's trivia winner! Trivia will be back next week.

All the music in this episode is by Earthbound

The Third Muslim
The Third Muslim Indie GoGo - Donate!


Friday, January 5, 2018

157 - Night Coffee New Year

We're on one this week as we look back at some of our favorite things from 2017 and what we're looking forward to in 2018. PLUS WE'RE INTRODUCING A NEW TRIVIA SEGMENT!

All the music in this episode is by The Coup

La Victoria Taqueria

Orange sauce!

Friday, December 29, 2017

156 - Night at the Museum (with Anastasia Vigo)

In this week's very special episode Kate's mom makes an appearance. We also go to an unnamed museum and talk to a wall, a bench, a pedistal, and some ghosts!

Our utmost thanks to writer, improviser, and comedian, Anastasia Vigo.

All the music in this episode is from The Secret of Monkey Island

Ven Voisey
Aggregate Space Gallery
Louise Bourgeois


Friday, December 22, 2017

155 - Heavy Breathing (with Sophia Wang and Lisa Rybovich Crallé)

This week we talk to artist collaborators and co-directors of Heavy Breathing, Sophia Wang and Lisa Rybovich Crallé. We hit on all your Christmas favorites: Luce Irigaray, Nietzsche, scavenger hunts, and goddess worship.

All the music in this episode is by The Cubby Creatures

Heavy Breathing
Lisa Rybovich Crallé
Luce Irigaray
Fuck You Pay Us

Mind and body! Engage!

Friday, December 15, 2017

154 - Video Artist (with Christy Chan)

This week Christy Chan leads on a trip down the winding road she took to become a video artist. We also talk about who we've called an asshole, what's going on with the SF mayor situation, and LISTENER FEEDBACK!!!

All the music in this episode is by Vince Staples

Christy Chan
A Series of Minor Defeats Hinting at Greater Cruelties by Anthony Discenza

Video cameras are portable now!

Friday, December 8, 2017

153 - Pâte de Verre (with Gay Outlaw)

This week our hearts overflow as we speak with artist, Gay Outlaw. We talk mold packing, positive attitudes, and French pastries.

All the music in this episode is by Horrible/Adorable

Gay Outlaw
As I See It, Yes by Gay Outlaw for the Brooklyn Rail

Spanish moss on oak trees in L.A. (Lower Alabama)

Friday, December 1, 2017

152 - Rainbow of Anxieties

This week we explore the spectrum of art world social awkwardness! Come along!

All the music in this episode is by XOA

If you would like to call in to the show LIVE, then go ahead and give us a call on Wednesdays from 6-7pm!
Tell us about your anxieties!

Friday, November 24, 2017

151 - Head Space (with Amy Ho)

This week we get the full story on artist, Amy Ho. We talk minds, bodies, and the howling of dogs.

All the music in this episode is by Avalon Emerson

Amy Ho

The final frontier.

Friday, November 17, 2017

150 - Too Many Men

This is week we look into how many men are being exhibited in galleries in the Bay Area. Kate's been to some shows that she didn't take any notes on, and we work that in as well. We also have a Studio Corner segment with artist, Leila Weefur.

CORRECTION: That show at the Kadist was co-curated by Jordan Stein and Alexandra Pappas

All the music in this episode is by Jay Som


Leila Weefur
SF Gallery Tally
Assistant Professor of Painting at UC Berkeley job
Rhythmix Cultural Works

No, thanks.

Friday, November 10, 2017

149 - Buttery Voices

This week Kate and Maysoun do some hard hitting journalism where they actually took notes and made recordings and everything.

All the music in this episode is by Blossom & HOT16


Allison Smith
Jewish Folktales Retold: Artist as Maggid
Kerry Tribe
Walker Evans show at SFMoMA
Common Field

Kate's still working on her broadcasting voice.

Friday, November 3, 2017

148 - Cloaca (with Marcella Faustini and Charlie Leese)

This week we have a rousing chat with co-organizers of Cloaca Projects, Marcella Faustini and Charlie Leese! We also drive a car!

All the music in this episode is by Italian Cherry

Compensation Foundation - Bay Area Artists Report

Olivia Mole
Hunt Projects

Celebrate Excretion!

Friday, October 27, 2017

147 - Funicular

WE ARE HAVING A CONTEST! Find out how to enter by listening to the damn episode. This week we revitalize all our old segments. Plus Kate is going to Pittsburgh.

All the music in this episode is by Favors

The Compensation Foundation - Bay Area Artists Report!

The Painting Salon
Et al.'s Kickastarter! Donate!
Right Window
The Hammer Museum

Take the incline to see the fall colors!

Friday, October 20, 2017

146 - Lost E Tails

This week Kate's really confounded by the missing e-tails in show booklets at the new Wattis show. Carrie Hott visits us for the new studio corner segment. Maysoun also tells about a rockin' surf movie she saw at the Arab Film Festival.

The music in this episode is by Favors and Madeline Kenney

Compensation Foundation - Bay Area Artists Report!

Ratio 3
Inextinguishable Fire by Harun Farocki
Gaza Surf Club

Half circles confuse and disturb.

Friday, October 13, 2017

145 - Prepare

This week we talk about disaster preparedness in relation to fires, earthquakes, and nuclear war. We also do a little mini ramble to mellow out.

The music in this episode is by Vince Staples and Ma Crow & the Lady Slippers

The Compensation Foundation

Donate to Jill and Jeremy, who lost their home in the fire
Fire Updates from the Ukiah Daily Journal
North Bay Fire Resources
More fire resources
NERT - Neighborhood Emergency Response Team (SF)
CORE - Communities of Oakland Respond to Emergencies
CERT -  Community Emergency Response Team (Berkeley)
Disaster Preparedness for Your Pet

Always be prepared.

Friday, October 6, 2017

Friday, September 29, 2017

143 - Museum Madness

This week Maysoun and Kate have been to some major institutions. Maysoun is especially on one about having her SFMOMA membership revoked.

All the music in this episode is by 1988

Organizations supporting hurricane victims in Puerto Rico:
Hispanic Federation
Feminist Solidarity Post-Hurricane Relief Fund
United for Puerto Rico

Compensation Foundation

Apply for an AltEx Grant
Apply for Bemis

Friday, September 22, 2017

142 - Back in the USA

This week Kate gives a tiny taste of her Euro-trip. We also talk about the new additions to the Headlands, what's going on with Berkeley's Art+Design lectures and things, plus the world's biggest cat painting.

Almost all the music in this episode is by Bassnectar

Jesse Jones
Swing Left
The Commons at the Headlands
Berkeley Art+Design Events
World's Biggest Cat Painting

America has the best breakfast.

Thursday, August 31, 2017

141 - Holes

This week we finally talk about SECA, Cloaca Projects, square footage, and how Kate's one of the douche artists going to Europe.

All the music in this episode is by Deerhoof - disaster relief for Houston (Thanks to Carrie Hott for sharing this)
Cloaca Projects
Chinese Culture Center of San Francisco
[2nd floor projects]

We'll be back on September 22nd!

Don't harass your lizard.

Friday, August 25, 2017

140 - The Stud

This week Kate and research assistant, Katy Kondo share some interviews they did with some of the new co-owners as well as some visitors to The Stud, the first cooperatively owned bar in America.

The music in this episode is by Tycho and Aaliyah

The Stud


Friday, August 18, 2017

139 - Equity (with Lauren Marie Taylor)

This week we talk about nazis, brains, and the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts fellowship program with artist and activist, Lauren Marie Taylor.

All the music in this episode is by Jefre Cantu-Ledesma

First responders training with APTP  
If you would like to volunteer to staff the Legal Observer's Hotline instead of attending the rallies, contact

Street Sheet Mentions: 
Aesthetic Perspectives: Attributes of Excellence in Arts for Change
(A framework to enhance understanding and evaluation of creative work at the intersection of arts and civic engagement, community development, and justice.)

Thanks so much to Lauren for organizing all the links!

There's no such thing as a nazi brain.

Friday, August 11, 2017

138 - Ramble Evening Showcase

This week we have a little ramble for you where we tell you what art and culture events are coming up. We haven't done one of these in a while! We're always open to sharing your events on the show, so send them to us.

Come on down!

Saturday, August 5, 2017

137 - Pop-Up Pantheon (with Ebony McKinney)

This week we have a very small snippet of an interview we never got to finish with arts administrator and advocate, Ebony McKinney, who died unexpectedly on Saturday. We also do our usual nonsense.

All the music in this episode is by Zhu

Article about Ebony on KQED
Time Piece by Jim Henson
Three Gems
Color Factory
Julia Bryan-Wilson New Book Release
The Stud

Maysoun was right about the Pantheon

Friday, July 14, 2017

136 - Doodle Flakes

This week we try to solve the problem of the email flake. Also we're taking the next two weeks off, and if you want us to come back you need to fill out the listener survey and email us and really be a participating listener!

All the music in this episode is by Wizard Apprentice

Support Little Paper Planes
Congratulations to Christina Wiles, the new co-director of Royal Nonesuch Gallery!

Don't be a flake

Friday, July 7, 2017

135 - News Room (with Sarah Burke)

This week we have the good luck of speaking with art writer and curator, Sarah Burke before she leaves the Bay Area! We talk journalism, fact checking, typewriters, fedoras, cigarettes, and all the rest.

All the music in this episode is by Moon Duo

Support CTRL+SHFT!

Sarah Burke
Sarah Burke on Twitter
Open Space
The Black Aesthetic

Extra! Extra!

Friday, June 30, 2017

134 - Wattis It All About?

This week we went to some shows. We try to make sense of the Museum of Capitalism, the Wattis, Catharine Clark, and so much more.

All the music in this episode is by Them Are Us Too

Jenny Odell
how to do nothing by Jenny Odell
Museum of Capitalism
The Painting Salon
Tosha Stimage
Cranium Corporation (podcast!)
City Limits
Indira Allegra
Catharine Clark

We go deep on some curtains this week.

Friday, June 23, 2017

Night Court: Santa on the Lam

We're taking a break this week, but Sam and the gang are here for you.

See you next week!

Friday, June 16, 2017

133 - Barfing Clay (with Celeste Chan)

This week we have a raucous chat with artist, Celeste Chan! We talk riot grrrl, raving in Japan, and hot tips for young writers. Maysoun also almost gets taken out by a pigeon.

Celeste Chan
Queer Rebels (Go! June 30th and July 1st!)
Foglifter Journal
Tania Bruguera — Talking to Power / Hablándole al Poder at YBCA

Rave on!

Friday, June 9, 2017

132 - Thought Forms (with Scott Hewicker)

This week we chat with artist, Scott Hewicker. We get into color theory, LSD, phone numbers, and religion. We also mention Cliff a million times, but forgot to mention that the Cliff we're talking about is Cliff Hengst. Keep that in mind!

Scott Hewicker
Cliff Hengst
Hilma af Klint

Don't drop acid at a condo complex!

Friday, June 2, 2017

131 - The Great Outdoors (with Alicia Escott)

This week we have a contribution from Wendy Baker. She presents Alicia Escott, who is making work about the Outer Sunset and the extinct animals that once lived there. Check it out:
Alicia Escott has been practicing art in her personal studio in the Outer Sunset for the past 5 years. During that time, she’s gotten to know the people, plants, animals and habitats of the neighborhood and is using that knowledge in her current show at Irving Street Projects. “Another Brief History of the Sunset” is an exhibit exploring community displacement through the language of ecology. The show is up until June 30th, and there will be public gallery hours from 1-5:00 on Sundays in June. 
Recorded and produced by Wendy Baker
Engineering and music composition by Edwin Broyles

The rest of the music in this episode is by Tera Melos

Friday, May 26, 2017

130 - Poetry (with Leila Weefur)

This week we have a deep chat with artist, Leila Weefur. We also talk about places we've never been before and secret music.

All the music in this episode is by Moon Duo

Leila Weefur
Amos Kennedy
Blackberries by Yusef Komunyakaa

Deconstructing language!

Friday, May 19, 2017

129 - Blast Off

This week  we are trying to blast off, but we don't really blast off. We also get deep into some arts email strategies again thanks to friend of the show, Christine Wong Yap.

Almost all the music in this episode is by Kool A.D.

SF Suicide Prevention Crisis Line: (415) 781-0500

Compensation Foundation (Take the survey!)

Sometimes you just feel like blasting off.

Friday, May 12, 2017

128 - Magic (with Tamra Seal)

This week we have a transcendent chat with artist, Tamra Seal. We also talk about tapping into the spirit world, YouTube fixation spirals, and exploring altered states.

All the music in this episode is by Lion Babe

Tamra Seal
Mills MFA Show
SF State MFA Show
The Rise of the L.A. Art Witch

Shout out to all the Lego Maniacs!

Friday, May 5, 2017

127 - Think Tanks (with Ruben Steinum)

This week Ethan Rafal scoops the freshest interview with Norwegian Art Lobbyist, Ruben Steinum. They figure out how to start an artists' union in California. We also talk events, thought experiments, and drawing class.

All the music in this episode is by The Coup

Ruben Steinum on Twitter
Ethan Rafal
UKS - UNGE KUNSTNERES SAMFUND (Artists' Union in Norway)
Precious Flamingo - Kate's Experimental Podcast Miniseries

Norway Railway

Friday, April 28, 2017

126 - Dreamscapes!

This week Kate and Maysoun get back on track! We chat about some hot opportunities for people looking to curate or get a studio. Kate talks about the quiche perks of being a press member. They also answer a listener question about dreamscape art venues.

All the music in this episode is by Yea-Ming and The Rumours

Living Room Light Exchange
Royal NoneSuch Gallery
Donna Haraway at SFAI
Roz Chast: Cartoon Memoirs at the Contemporary Jewish Museum

Kate's new podcast miniseries:

Gallery seating option.

Friday, April 21, 2017

Happy Birthday, Maysoun!

We're still recovering from Maysoun's raucous birthday.

Thanks to Wendy and Lisa

Check out what are you looking at the new podcast at Art Practical!


Friday, April 14, 2017

125 - Pinus

This is a little shorty because we had to record in the back of a car this week. We chat about experimental theater, pine trees, and robots.

The music in this episode:

Macho Intelectual, 2015 by INVASORIX
Nadie Aquí es Ilegal, 2014 by INVASORIX
Your Body Your Ship, 2017 by Jeepneys
LOVE NETWORKS LOVE, 2017 by Laura Hyunjhee Kim

We'll be back in a building next week.

Friday, April 7, 2017

124 - Formal Anal(ysis)

This week we check out the Henrick Oleson show at Wattis. We also try to give some advice to a listener that can't get rid of someone who has decided to join him in an evening of gallery hopping. We also eat pie.

All the music in this episode is by LSD and the Search for God

Mission Pie

Nice, clean screws

Friday, March 31, 2017

123 - Biology

This week we hash out what makes a good professional bio. We also suggest some events you could check out in the next couples weeks. Surprise: research assistant Katy Kondo joins us!

All the music in this episode is by Elsa y Elmar

SEIU Local 1021
Freelancers Union
Artists' Union England
Canadian Artist Representation

Thinking about artists' unions again.

Friday, March 24, 2017

122 - Zanolli

This week we have a question from a listener! We love listener questions, so if you have one send it in: We chat about Dana Schutz at the Whit-Bi, and we wonder about the world of contemporary hetero dating. Kate also titillates with tales from internet art scammers.

The music in this episode is by  Hunx & His Punx

Hannah Black’s open letter to the curators and staff of the Whitney Biennial
White Artist’s Painting of Emmett Till at Whitney Biennial Draws Protests
Protesters Block, Demand Removal of a Painting of Emmett Till at the Whitney Biennial
Alternative Health Options
Meet the Woke Misogynist


Saturday, March 18, 2017

121 - The Underworld (with Carrie Hott)

Carrie Hott joins Kate to listen to a cassette tape of an underwater mall talk show hosted by two whales. Leo the crab makes an appearance. Plus Kate talks about being accosted by a guy at Minnesota Street Project.

Most of the music in this episode is by Sonny and the Sunsets

Monterey Bay Aquarium
Sophia Cleary talk and performance at RTS

Baleen on me when you're not strong. I'll be your friend. I'll help you Carrie on!

Friday, March 10, 2017

120 - Duties

This week we shout out some other podcasts and events. We also talk about talking about racism with our white friends. Shannon makes another special guest appearance.

All the music in this episode is by Moon Duo

We Want the Airwaves
The (art) Scene Podcast
Apex Express
Eastside Arts Alliance
Omni Calendar
Race Forward - A public policy, educational and research institute whose work emphasizes issues of race and social change.
AORTA - anti-oppression resource and training alliance
Stanislaus County Democratic Party

Support the Ed Mock Documnetary by Brontez Purnell!

Do some light filing!